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RE: Knocking One Out - westy_warrior - 01-21-2014 04:05 PM

i'm not a fan of boxing

RE: Knocking One Out - whotobeA - 01-21-2014 04:42 PM

I'd be surprised if groves beat ward tbf, then again I was surprised groves sat froch on his arse in the first.

I get the feeling froch will take a lowish risk tune up then finish on a decent paid loss to ward.

RE: Knocking One Out - Cheese - 01-21-2014 05:01 PM

it would be a massive upset if groves took wards crown.. never know though.

RE: Knocking One Out - drsrhino - 01-21-2014 05:47 PM

I know there are discussions happening between the two. Very early stages though. I think the deadline for the rematch between froch and groves passes at the end of this week. Both fighters are making alternate arrangements albeit preliminary at this stage. Ward seems to favour the groves fight this year.

Kell brook doesn't look like fighting for a world title until late in the year, if then. Alexander has exercised his right for a rematch by the sound of it and then it being kept in house for at least one defence after that.

RE: Knocking One Out - The Man With No Name - 01-21-2014 06:35 PM

Adonis Stevenson is the one Jean pascal should go after now. Stevenson is a bit of a monster, he brutalised Tony Bellew.

RE: Knocking One Out - camdentiger - 01-22-2014 12:37 PM

(01-21-2014 06:35 PM)The Man With No Name Wrote:  Adonis Stevenson is the one Jean pascal should go after now. Stevenson is a bit of a monster, he brutalised Tony Bellew.

Bellew didn't know how to handle Stevenson - he was different class

RE: Knocking One Out - chesterhino - 01-22-2014 12:42 PM

eddie hearns new column...

Welcome to my first MailOnline boxing column. This is where I’ll be sharing views and news from Matchroom Boxing and the logical place to start is the subject of a Carl Froch-George Groves re-match. It’s logical because it is a fight I get asked about every day.
It’s also something I am working very hard on and I hope to have a more concrete answer in the next two weeks. In the meantime, I can give you an idea of the sorts of discussions that have been going on behind the scenes.
We have had a lot of conversations with both fighters and it’s a fight I think needs to happen this year. If we strike a deal, and there’s still some way to go, then it’s a fight I would like to put on in a big stadium on one of the last two Saturdays in May. We have spoken to Wembley and numerous other stadiums already – I believe this fight would draw a crowd of 70,000 or 80,000.

The important factor in all this is what Carl wants. He is the unified champion and in the closing stages of his career he has dreams and aspirations, especially to fight in Las Vegas. Groves has options and has spoken to other promoters, but obviously he wants Carl most. And the public want this fight so much – they want answers as to what may have happened after that fantastic fight and the controversy of George being stopped.
Carl has four options – a rematch with WBA super-middleweight champion Andre Ward, who beat Carl in 2011; Gennady Golovkin, the middleweight world champion; Julio Cesar Chavez Jnr, the former middleweight champion. Then there’s Groves. We all know about George.
To my mind, the Ward fight, commercially speaking, is not big enough. The only reason for them to fight is Carl wants revenge, but he wants it badly. The money is not comparable for the Ward fight to the Groves and Chavez fight. Chavez is an easier fight, if you ask me, but politically it would be tough because of the re-match clauses and the money Chavez wants.
I don’t see many reasons for Golovkin to move from middleweight and I have been told by various sources that their team believes Carl is the toughest fight out there. That’s the fight his people ooh, ah and wince at. It would be a truly great fight between two warriors, but I don’t think Golovkin is quick enough or awkward enough to grit it out with Carl at 168lbs.

With Groves, we know his demands and it is too much, but having not really entered the negotiation period properly, I still believe we can find some middle ground.
At the moment, we are putting the options together and forecasting the financials and saying: ‘Right, these are the fights and these are the numbers.’ If you ask me I’ll always go with the one with the biggest numbers unless it is very close and one fight is easier or in Las Vegas, where Carl has always wanted to fight.
My gut feeling is that it will happen this year. I spoke about it with Carl last week. We talked about the fact it is a big fight and that it will still be around down the line but I don’t agree with that. If Groves takes another fight and loses, his value would diminish, and if he wins, he may want a greater split which would make it more difficult to negotiate.
Carl has made a career out of giving the public what they want but he really doesn’t like Groves. Last time, George was the mandatory challenger so Carl had no choice but to fight him or lose the belt.
Now, in Carl’s mind, there is no reason to fight George other than the money and the fact it is what the people want to see. Pride? I don’t think he feels in his head that he has a lot to prove, but at the same point, the animosity between the two could potentially drive him like never before.

He won the fight, although he does feel it was stopped too early. He wishes it would have gone on 10 or 15 seconds because he’s convinced he would have finished it in devastating fashion. I, like many, believe he would have gone on to win the fight – but these unanswered questions make this potentially the biggest bout in British boxing history.
Even now, a couple of months after the fight, I can’t quite believe how good the fight was. Styles make fights and that is why Groves was wrong for Carl with his speed and movement. He surprised me with how well he did, even though everyone in boxing knows what power George has.
I was there at the press conference when George said he was going to stand and trade in the middle of the ring. To be honest, after that press conference, that was the first time I thought Carl was going to be absolutely fine.
I always thought he would win, but that made me certain. I thought Groves had looked worried in the face-off and was nervous. Obviously I was wrong. George was fantastic – I had him two rounds up at the time of the stoppage

RE: Knocking One Out - Cheese - 01-22-2014 02:28 PM

few interesting snippets in there.

RE: Knocking One Out - chesterhino - 01-24-2014 12:47 PM

Tyson Fury’s official Team-Fury website has announced the comeback foe Fury will face in London on February 15th. Fury, inactive since his April 2013 up from the floor stoppage win over Steve Cunningham, will face Argentine slugger Gonzalo Omar Basile. Basile has a 61-8 record with 28 KOs and he has boxed almost his entire career at home. The 39-year-old has been stopped seven times, usually whenever he has stepped up in class. Alexander Dimitrenko and Artur Szpilka both stopped Basile early, while the 6’6″ fighter known as “El Paton” has also been halted by Mauro Ordiales (in Basile’s debut), Cesar Acevedo (twice), Marcelo Nascimento and, most recently in 2012, Luis Juarez.

RE: Knocking One Out - drsrhino - 01-24-2014 12:53 PM

Looks like a warm up fight for someone else.